tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post1457816559594984466..comments2024-03-21T14:36:02.267+05:30Comments on Fr. Jerry Kurian’s thoughts: The woman and Jesus on Valentine’s dayFr. Jerry Kurianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-86070381925820159982012-02-17T15:46:27.915+05:302012-02-17T15:46:27.915+05:30Thanks for commenting Ciya. The church indeed give...Thanks for commenting Ciya. The church indeed gives importance to both the divine and human nature of Jesus. There have been many misunderstandings in the history of Christianity because of seeing this differently. This passage seen in this particular way (as in the post) seeks to say that the humanity of Jesus should not be submerged in his divinity. Jesus suffered the pain on the cross. This way he also felt pain and pleasure in varying degrees. One doe not need to be ashamed of talking about these feelings.Fr. Jerry Kurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-201483486213282792012-02-17T15:40:23.114+05:302012-02-17T15:40:23.114+05:30Thanks for commenting Ciya. The church indeed give...Thanks for commenting Ciya. The church indeed gives importance to both the divine and human nature of Jesus. There have been many misunderstandings in the history of Christianity because of seeing this differently. This passage seen in this particular way (as in the post) seeks to say that the humanity of Jesus should not be submerged in his divinity. Jesus suffered the pain on the cross. This way he also felt pain and pleasure in varying degrees. One doe not need to be ashamed of talking about these feelings.Fr. Jerry Kurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-32038626491761556152012-02-15T10:04:51.997+05:302012-02-15T10:04:51.997+05:30Achen,
Wonderfully written.can this passage be see...Achen,<br />Wonderfully written.can this passage be seen as a reflection of Jesus as complete man and at the same time complete God?<br />Ciyaciyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14814696534558934156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-44598651615555512142011-02-17T23:39:39.019+05:302011-02-17T23:39:39.019+05:30Dear Mr. Zach George Arapura,
Thanks...Dear Mr. Zach George Arapura,<br /> Thanks very much for your comment. I am deeply impressed that you have taken a good long look at the passage. What you have said is true. The church in its early stage must have taken a conscious stance against eroticism to appear different. But later on it was mutely accepted without much thought into why this was so. I wonder what people in church would think of this interpretation. Atleast three including you are atleast open to consider it (which is a good sign). The washing of the feet of the disciples by Jesus goes further in expression of love and as a sign of arousal. Guess we can explore that in detail further. Thanks again.Fr. Jerry Kurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-40179812374868990022011-02-17T22:08:54.289+05:302011-02-17T22:08:54.289+05:30Dear Achen,
IMHO the traditional Churches frown up...Dear Achen,<br />IMHO the traditional Churches frown upon mingling of sexes. They shy away from anything that is related mildly to sensuality or eroticism. We have been conditioned to think by the Church that anything sensual or anything which gives pleasure must be inherently wrong. Deep inside we are happy about it but are unwilling to admit it. We tend to categorize such emotions/sentiments as guilty pleasure.<br />I’ve read some interpretation of the passage that says the ‘sinful’ woman expresses her love and adoration for Yeshu along with her repentance (?) by her action. (I am not sure of what she is repenting. The Book is very vague about this topic.)<br />I’ve never thought about Yeshu in this passage. I’ve been focussed on the woman, her sins and her repentance. This is the first time I’m hearing that Yeshu may have enjoyed the sensation and may have been even aroused by it. I am incredibly grateful to you for providing this line of thought.Normally this passage is perceived to contain the ‘divine/godly’ elements of Yeshu. But you have provided a ‘human’ dimension to this situation.<br />IMHO Yeshu definitely enjoyed this sensation and it may be his attempt to provide his disciples this sensation that he himself washed their feet.<br />I thank you for sharing this ‘arousing’ thought.<br />Sincerely,<br />Zach George ArapuraZach Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12728342400671390170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-75866167687617040062011-02-16T01:39:53.438+05:302011-02-16T01:39:53.438+05:30Yes. We all need to think out of the box. It helps...Yes. We all need to think out of the box. It helps in understanding the real Jesus and also in knowing what to do ourselves.Fr. Jerry Kurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-76572269618930225322011-02-15T23:54:24.373+05:302011-02-15T23:54:24.373+05:30good read.will make people think out of the boxgood read.will make people think out of the boxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-63724047058644813032011-02-15T16:06:33.557+05:302011-02-15T16:06:33.557+05:30Good thought Rohan. I was challenged to think this...Good thought Rohan. I was challenged to think this way because of the NCCI workshop. So thanks is due to Jione who challenged many of us. And due thanks also to the other participants who involved themselves actively. It is funny that I otherwise never thought of this passage like this.Fr. Jerry Kurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-77990668917081383232011-02-15T15:58:41.935+05:302011-02-15T15:58:41.935+05:30Rohan Gideon (Facebook, 15-2-2011)- Thanks jerry f...Rohan Gideon (Facebook, 15-2-2011)- Thanks jerry for sharing your thoughts. I got to know first hand that many liked it (your meditation) and the thought that Jesus liked it (i dint mean your meditation, but the arousal) :-)<br /><br />It's a very rare kind of reading the text and you have broken many boundaries, questioning the 'shame' aspect which we otherwise secretly enjoy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-37696236449884943502011-02-15T15:56:24.010+05:302011-02-15T15:56:24.010+05:30Yes Chitra. Jesus indeed liked it. And we all like...Yes Chitra. Jesus indeed liked it. And we all like it too. And I like that you like it that Jesus liked it. :)Fr. Jerry Kurianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06206322341911071060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517670258425145338.post-39704047488328996192011-02-15T15:54:19.982+05:302011-02-15T15:54:19.982+05:30Lalitha Jayachitra (Facebook, 15-2-2011)- Jesus li...Lalitha Jayachitra (Facebook, 15-2-2011)- Jesus liked it, I like it too. lol<br />good you shared with those who could not hear you last week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com